Το δεύτερο μέρος της συνέντευξης που λέει:
* Αυτοί που έκαναν διάσπαση στον χώρο ΘΑ ΠΛΗΡΏΣΟΥΝ
* οι δράσεις για Γιώργο- Μάνο- Κώστα Κατσίφα
* Την κλοπή της οργανωτικής σημαίας των οργανώσεων.
* Οι C18 Hellas και παγκόσμια.
* Η Χρυσή Αυγή είναι ένα κεφάλαιο απο μόνη της στην κινηματική ιστορία.
* Όχι άλλο κλάψα στον "χώρο" και άλλα πολλά.
Θα συνεχιστεί και σαν Part 3 όπου θα είναι και το τελευταίο μέρος όπου θα εξηγηθούν όλες οι δράσεις καθώς και τα ονόματα απο τους προδότες.
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Eng translation.
The second part of the interview of the AME/COMBAT18 HELLAS leader...je answered everything..formthe foreigner comrades available English translation... SHARE NOW
Some people act tough without taking responsibility for the consequences, in general, and what is the biggest distortion you see in the field today? Tell me.
Well, now I don’t know if someone is just acting tough. I see what’s happening through actions. Now, I don’t know if there are actions as well. Apart from a few things, two or three gatherings, I don’t know of other actions. Apart from some that I see from Golden Dawn, some from Ieros Lohos, and, well, one from Larissa, Aspis i think is the organization. Let’s say something, I don’t know.
Now, distortion in the movement,even though we talked about it in the first questions , the distortion of the movement is the same as the movement. We said that now believe in this defensive doctrine.
Do you consider that there are red lines in general that separate the organization you had from other organizations and parties today in general?
Because I don’t believe in democracy ,and no one from us believed in democracy from the moment no one believed in democracy, and everyone has become a bunch of democrats. Of course, that separates us with red lines. Our nationalism is aggressive. It is not defensive. It probably was like that. Always It was aggressive. You gave a knife, you’ll receive a knife. You slap me, I’ll throw two punches back.
From there on, these are all red lines for us. I cannot accept bombs being placed on comrades, their cars burned, them beaten, and I just sit there. That is unacceptable.
So, from the moment they believe that if something like that happens, we are automatically provocateurs or one thing or another. That is a red line.
And I’ll say that in the past we published a brochure called “Listen, nationalist,” and we told them that it is unacceptable for an activist group to participate in gatherings, and it is unacceptable for people who just participate in gatherings to participate in activism. At some point, they will be handed over to state security or counter-terrorism.
When you say activism, clarify a bit. What exactly do you mean? How do you see it?
Activism for us is from the moment you give something to your opponent, so that they understand. For example, for me, a major activist action, where I don’t mean when others do it, is to take a banner, write something on it, and go to Geraniou Street, Omonia, Syntagma, Patissia, Amerikis Square, Agios Panteleimonas etc if we’re talking about that kind of activism.
There are other actions where we take different paths, and obviously not everyone should do them.
Of course, it’s not for everyone. Nothing is for everyone. Not everyone is suitable for everything. Of course. You are right.
Sorry. Not everyone is suitable for everything. But those who don’t do everything shouldn’t talk too much and criticize those who do other things. Understand?
I completely agree because you are right about that. That’s how it is.
Well, regarding activism, since I know you were specialized in urban guerrilla warfare, to put it simply, I know you had relations with Combat 18 abroad and generally that you did various, let’s say, extreme exceptional actions in Greece, within the framework of urban guerrilla warfare.
Can you tell me something about that? Yes, of course. Combat18 is an international organization. We have had and have excellent relations with all comrades from Spain, Germany, France, Poland, Ukraine, Finland, and from South America, Mexico, Ecuador and other countries as well.
All those comrades did actions in support of the dead murdered Konstantinos Katsifas. They did actions for Giorgos and Manos too. Of course, this wasn’t initiated by our movement .Well, as you saw, and as I read in your interviews with some Combat18, you saw what they said about Greeks and you saw that when they get invited, they would come if invited.
Yes, that’s true.
I know some from Combat18 abroad, and indeed they speak highly of our country, and I know that such actions have taken place. And it surprised me that they do actions for Kostas Katsifas, Giorgos, and Manos ,actions that other organizations or parties in the movement haven’t done, and moreover, some organizations even criticize them.
Imagine though, why does this happen?
They must have their reasons, I suppose. Their reasons. I wish I could answer for them.
Sorry. Is there a reason to carry out actions for a comrade? I don’t understand that.
Well, if you think about it, there is an organization in Greece that has insulted Giorgos and Manos that tells you the level i think.
The one who insulted Giorgos… Look, I’ll tell you something because we’ve all been misunderstood now. Terms have been misunderstood, meanings have been misunderstood and everything has been misunderstood.
Giorgos and Manos… and I am in a position to know that they were murdered by what I would call paramilitaries. I don’t even call them anti-fascists , they were terrorists. It was retaliation.
Of course, they were, let’s say, martyrs of the idea. Konstantinos ,whom I happened to know very well ,the man was a hero. That’s where I distinguish them first.
He died while shouting “Long live Northern Epirus.”
For Giorgos Manos and Kostas we carried out retaliations strikes.
Of course, people don’t know this. Well, it’s time they learned, because they think that if you go somewhere and say something about someone, that’s action.
For me, from the moment you choose such a path, you must go to the Ministry of Justice, the Ministry of Public Order, to the courts, to make interventions, to do such things so that the killers are finally arrested.
They have not been arrested because they are the long arm of the system. That’s obvious.
Now, beyond that, because many things have been said over time, I condemn and I find it completely unacceptable for there to be, in Greek nationalist organizations, any foreigner. Any foreigner. Because I identify myself as a white nationalist, I do not accept foreigners in an organization. I’ve heard that there may be Albanians. I’ve heard that there may even be gypsies. I do not accept that. I consider them imitations.
This also applies to other Europeans , sorry, European comrades. For example, if a German lives permanently in Greece and is a national socialist or nationalist, a white nationalist, can he become a member or supporter of a Greek national organization?
To become a supporter, yes. To become a member ,I don’t think there is a reason. Why should he become a member?
Because, as you said, you identify as a white nationalist. So he is also a white nationalist, and since he lives permanently in a country, why not?
Similarly, I should point out that there are Greek nationalists in foreign movements or parties as members when they live abroad.
Look, it depends on what each organization stands for and what it wants. Why should I have a Frenchman or a German inside my organization in Greece, to have him as my soldier? No, of course not. Because tomorrow I might act against them.You get me?
Yes, but we can’t know the future from now. If he wants to fight alongside you for Greece…
He can be a supporter. Even Antetokoumpo is a philhellene. But he is NOT Greek , how would that work?
Yes, but Antetokoumpo isn’t even white. There is a basic difference. There are also whites here who are degenerate , they accept drug addicts, people addicted to steroids… Drunkards… who told you that? I am very strict with my criteria, and that’s why we lasted so many years.
Exactly, you just said the key word .....criteria. I completely agree and I’m also very strict with criteria. These are different criteria for whites, but allowing a non-white person in is something completely different.
Look, first of all I stand for my race(white) and my nation(Hellas). I work for Greeks, and once I solve my /our own problems, then I move on to a more European level. I want to go back a bit to the previous question. Why aren’t there such massive actions for Konstantinos?
The clothes they buy are Albanian.
(Ironic laugh)
Don’t laugh. It’s not funny. It’s very serious.
The laugh is ironic. I think you understand, and it’s a valid question ,on why the mobilization for Giorgos and Manos happens, rightly so, but not for Kostas Katsifas? I completely agree.
Of course it happens. And regarding Konstantinos Katsifas, the Albanian authorities have not yet clarified his death.
They haven’t given the green light. The case is not closed yet.
No, it’s not finished. That’s true.
Katsifas died with a Greek flag. He died holding an AK47. Of course, some will say he was an extremist,it is not for us. We only want crying and saying “long live Greece,” and even saying it wrong.
I’ve heard many things over the years from comrades about Katsifas. Many people don’t even know he died with an AK47 in his hands. That’s certain.
And others say, “he should have been careful,” because if you pull a weapon in front of police, that’s the consequence.
Yes, I’ve heard that too.
I’m not saying it about you, but about those who say it. First of all, he died in Northern Epirus, not southern Albania.
Some protocols are still ACTIVE ,it is an occupied territory.
For example, for me there is no Turkey , there is Greater Ionia. There are no sea borders up, there is Pontus. But these have been integrated. Northern Epirus should be autonomous.
That’s a big difference. Like Cyprus as well.
Of course.
Now, those who say different things should be careful with their words about Kostas, because we have eyes and ears everywhere , even in places and organizations where they don’t think we do.
Let me ask you something else about your organization. Did you use explosives or similar materials?
That is known. From the moment a bomb is used, it is use.
And we have over 300 attacks. Let me repeat please, 300. Think about that number.
It’s huge.
Yes. Because some mock it three zero means 300.
So yes, explosives were used.
I want to move to another topic anarchists, antifas, leftists. How do they treat you? What do they think?
Ha my favourite topic.
Mine as well.
Maybe I’ll surprise some people, but I believe it’s better to have an honest enemy than a fake friend.
And yet, antifas and anarchists were more honest enemies.
Why? In what way?
Because when something happened, they admitted it , even if they downplayed it. For example, they would say “failed arson attack.”
I don’t understand that term. If something ignites and flames reach 5–6 meters, how is it “failed”?
They have their own definitions. They just have their own definitions.
But when I say “honest enemy,” I mean they admit things.
They don’t hide, they don’t pretend. Let’s also talk about that bomb incident, because there was confusion. If you remember, a bomb exploded in Ampelokipi.
Yes, of course.
What many people don’t know is what it was intended for.
It was going somewhere.You need basic physics knowledge to understand this.The bomb was in its final stage.Think of it like a balloon that inflates until it bursts.
That’s what happened , it reached critical pressure. According to the anti-terror unit, it was meant to be placed somewhere nearby.
Near Ampelokipi there is only the police PD (GADA),the Supreme Court, and the Court of Appeals. We were actually passing by the courts when it exploded.
Many say it was for a specific date, like November 1st.
No, there’s no way it would have been transported elsewhere like Heraklion.
It would have exploded either in a car or in their hands.They’re not that stupid.
The anti-terror report clearly said that it was intended for somewhere near GADA. But that’s unlikely too, because that area is heavily monitored. There are even surveillance systems and satellites. I believe it was intended for US.
or for the Court of Appeals where our trial was.
It just happened we were passing there at that moment.
That sounds like a coincidence. I don’t believe in coincidences. Experience has taught me not to.
There was also a suspicious person at the court. A shady guy, now appearing on shows, wearing glasses, looking around the courtrooms.
Interesting.
That should make people think.
He had nothing to do with your case?
Maybe. But I don’t believe in coincidences. He’s a very shady character. I believe he had a role in our arrest and not only ours.
Yes, there are many such shows. People will reveal themselves eventually. He was with other small organizations at gatherings, pointing at us and saying “these are them.”
So you were directly identified.
Of course. And then those same people call us “state agents.”That’s the ironic part.
Yes. Let them show their case files.
I’ll show them prison records , real prison, not soft prisons.
Let’s move to something else about your organization.
I noticed your colors were blue and black.Very nice flag.Who chose those colors? What do they symbolize?
I designed the flag myself in 2011..Blue represents my homeland.And I say “my homeland” because there are many people todaywho call themselves nationalists or national socialists,but they don’t care about their race. Black represents autonomy. And our emblem is the Celtic cross in the middle.
Yes, I’ve seen others use the same colors.
I don’t know who had the idea to copy and modify our flag.But....It’s dangerous and It shows no respect. Because eventually everything becomes a target. To anarchists, antifa, or others, everything becomes something that can be attacked. It’s also like stealing. Like taking someone else’s flag and putting your own symbol on it. That’s unacceptable¡!!!!
That’s why I asked , I’ve seen it elsewhere too.
Yes, and it’s dangerous.
There have been bomb attacks in response to actions for example in Marousi, where someone was slightly injured. This shows how serious things are.
Let’s move to questions from Instagram.
Since comments are disabled, people sent questions privately. And I want to assure them that No names will be revealed.Everything will remain anonymous.
One question that someone asked:
“What plans do you have from now on, and how can someone find you?”
I think I already answered that ,they can’t find us. We don’t recruit people.
There are radical nationalist organizations in the scene, where some of our former comrades are.
It’s like trying to make a crippled person run ,it just doesn’t work.
Another question:
“What pushed you to continue, knowing that at some point you would end up in prison?”
That’s our ideology.
What pushed us? Prison or even death , that was always expected. That’s the fate of a fighter.
A fighter doesn’t get glory. People in a struggle, especially a liberation struggle, don’t get to enjoy the fruits of their efforts.
So it was logical that at some point we would either go to prison, end up dead, or the group would dissolve. That’s the natural course of things.
But this is important ,AME was the energy. And according to the law of thermodynamics, energy never disappears. It just changes form and evolves.
Whoever understands, understands.
Another question:
“What’s your problem with Propatria? In the previous part you called them non-existent. Where were you on 1/11, and how do organizations get money?”
That’s actually three questions from the same person. First of all, why I consider them “non-existent”: I have nothing against the guys themselves. I even like them. I consider them comrades. I don’t have a problem with Propatria as a group ,I have an issue with two specific individuals. And those two will pay.
People who don’t know the situation shouldn’t get involved. This goes way back.
It’s not really a “conflict” with the organization , it’s personal with certain individuals.
When I said “non-existent,” that’s my personal standard. I don’t consider some of what they do as real action. If it was real action, we would be at 10%, 20%, 25% support right now. But we’re not.
Anarchists are running wild, foreigners are running wild ,so what action are we talking about?
That’s what I mean.
Going and doing meaningless things doesn’t mean anything to me. It’s not my standard.
But again, I have no problem with the youngers guys. They have nothing to fear from us.
If something happens, like in the past, we will show solidarity and respond as much as we can.
But again ,my issue is with two specific people.
They were involved back in 2017, along with others, in certain actions. They will pay. Whether they want to or not.
Another question:
“I see the leader of AME is invisible , why doesn’t anyone know him?”
Because that’s how you stay effective.
Behind our masks and balaclavas there wasn’t one leader ,there was Nikos, Kostas, Dimitra, Nikol....
It was everyone’s struggle.
Have you ever heard people say “Long live the leader of AME”?
No.
They say “Long live AME.” Because the struggle belongs to everyone. Everything we did wasn’t for self-promotion, money, or recruiting members.
About money:
There are ways for an organization to make money. Of course there are.
But we don’t commercialize things , not even violence. That would be a huge mistake.
As far as I know, there are some small groups that are being funded, but I won’t go into details.
Another question:
“Are Combat 18 and AME Christian?”
We never really opened religious discussions.
Personally, I am Christian. Others are not.
Just like we said before , nationalist, national socialist, patriot ,we didn’t divide ourselves like that.
We were all for Greece, for our nation, our race, and Europe.
For example, Finns are not Orthodox , does that mean we wouldn’t cooperate with them? That makes no sense.
I’m Christian, but I also respect people who revive ancient traditions.
That’s part of our history. I would never attack them for it , and they shouldn’t attack Christians either. Our real enemy is something else.
Some people ask how someone can be both a nationalist and a Christian.
This question is pointless.
There are people starving, the country is collapsing, and we’re discussing religion?
I’m not going to sit here and analyze whether Christ was Greek or Jewish.
It’s ridiculous.
What matters is action.
Go out with a banner. We’ve done it. I can show proof.
Go to places like Geraniou street, Ameriki Square, Agios Panteleimonas etc
Talk to people there ,the shop owners, the locals.
It’s not just about elections.
Now, what I’m about to say might bother some people.The truth is, the only ones who actually did this besides AME in the past was Golden Dawn.
I’m not talking about Golden Dawn though. That’s a separate chapter.
I’ve already stated my position on them.
Most of the old members are gone now, but many of them were very capable.
And here’s something people don’t know:
Actions were carried out abroad , in Ecuador, Chile, Poland, Spain, Germany in support of a political prisoner (I won’t name him).
Most people in Greece don’t even know this.
But it happened yeah.
